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Poster: Peggy-0 Date: Aug 12, 2012 12:41pm
Forum: etree Subject: ipod app to download music

I am searching for an app that allows me to download music onto my ipod so I can listen when not online. Safari/itunes won't download shows. I have tried archive player app, that allows streaming and fstream app to no avail. Suggestions? Thanks.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Aug 12, 2012 3:53pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

Don't think you can do that via an app...the only way to get mp3s on there is by syncing through iTunes. In other words, download via the browser on your computer, put the mp3s in iTunes, then sync to your iPod.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Aug 13, 2012 12:41pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

hey Dave (or anyone)... I never visit the iTunes store. I never d/l songs or albums via the iTunes store. But let's suppose you have an iPhone 3 or 4, any variant model. Let's suppose you have it loaded with some Apps, some movies, some photos, and some songs and albums from the iTunes store and/or from your computer.

Let's suppose you asked me, "hey Monte, can you d/l some shows from The Archive's LMA for me, and put the MP3 tracks on my iPhone with your computer? Here is my iPhone. I'll be back later."

Let's suppose I locate and d/l a few shows from the LMA for you. Then I hook up your iPhone to my computer and use my iTunes s/w. My OS is Windows XP, I am running iTunes s/w ver 10.5.3.3

I want to sync your iPhone's music to "add" those LMA shows I d/l for you, which is coming from my iTunes music library. Is there a way to do this, and leave the existing music on your iPhone, while it syncs to my computer for a few "extra shows"?

I do not want to delete any music from your iPhone. I do not want to delete your Apps, photos, or movies. I want to use my computer, my iTunes s/w, and my music library to add a few shows to your iPhone - without removing anything. I am unsure if this is possible.

This post was modified by Monte B Cowboy on 2012-08-13 19:41:30

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Aug 13, 2012 7:34pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

I'm in the same boat as you. While I own an iPod and an iPhone, I use none of them for storing music, so take any and all such advice with a grain of salt.

However, I am pretty sure you can do this via managing content manually:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1202

However however, it appears you can only do this with an iPod formatted on the same OS that you own (see the notes at the very bottom). Mine is Mac-formatted, so it wouldn't display on your WinXP machine, according to the abovelinked article.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Aug 14, 2012 8:36am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

Thanks. I have tried this (what I posted above - "adding shows") a couple of times with a "second computer", and with a "first computer". Apple says the devices need to be set to manual mode if I wanted to "add shows" without erasing and syncing.

Using my iTunes s/w, and using my computer as the second computer, I am unable to set these devices to manual mode without erasing and syncing. My iTunes s/w does not permit this.

So, it appears to me that iPhones and iPods can only be set to "manual mode" (without erasing and syncing) if you use the original computer. The second computer cannot perform this without erasing and syncing. I guess this is how it works. That's my experience. Now I get it. Is this correct?

This post was modified by Monte B Cowboy on 2012-08-14 15:36:16

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 14, 2012 10:09am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

The work-around is using a thumb-drive(or P2P file sharing site) for the recipient to add files to their own ITunes and updating their own Ipod/phone.

It's not as hassle-free for the recipient, but it gets the job done pretty smoothly.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Aug 14, 2012 10:44am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

What if someone developed an app for Peggy that "downloaded music from the LMA and saved it on her ipod so she can listen to them when not online"? Wouldn't the App developer have to give the App away for free - no commercial gain or profit, right? What do you think?

What if adding shows from the LMA to your iPhone was too complicated for you to do? What if you wanted to pay me a small stipend to put LMA downloadable shows on your iPod? I would have to do this for free - no commercial gain or profit, right? What do you think?

Grateful Dead band's Rights and Trading Policy: "STATEMENT TO MP3 SITE OPERATORS"
The Grateful Dead and our managing organizations have long encouraged the purely non-commercial exchange of music taped at our concerts and those of our individual members. That a new medium of distribution has arisen - digital audio files being traded over the Internet - does not change our policy in this regard. Our stipulations regarding digital distribution are merely extensions of those long-standing principles and they are as follow:

No commercial gain may be sought by websites offering digital files of our music, whether through advertising, exploiting databases compiled from their traffic, or any other means.

All participants in such digital exchange acknowledge and respect the copyrights of the performers, writers and publishers of the music.

This notice should be clearly posted on all sites engaged in this activity. We reserve the ability to withdraw our sanction of non-commercial digital music should circumstances arise that compromise our ability to protect and steward the integrity of our work."

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Poster: high flow Date: Aug 14, 2012 11:28am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

I think you could charge a few bucks for a tutorial on how to do this with any band's files from LMA. Thus, GD policies regarding profit would not apply. Then Peggy can take that knowledge and apply it to adding GD shows/files to her Ipod/phone.

In any case, I think charging Peggy for your time and know-how is not the same as profiting from distribution of GD MP3 files uploaded here at LMA. It's kind of a grey area and I don't think anybody would mind unless you offered this as a service via a website like E-Bay or Craigslist.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Aug 14, 2012 4:04pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: ipod app to download music

FWIW, there are a few paid apps that serve as an interface to the LMA. There are free ones too, but the paid apps have, to this point, not run afoul of whatever non-profit band decrees there are out there.